Intel Core X vs. AMD Ryzen Threadripper: What we all know thus far


As anticipated, Intel published its new circle of relatives of Core X fanatic grade processors at Computex, whilst AMD published more main points relating to Threadripper. So let’s communicate in regards to the CPUs and make a couple of comparisons, although prior to we get too a long way into it please be aware we don’t have any reputable style names, clock speeds or pricing data for the Threadripper collection, whilst the clock speeds for Intel’s higher-end Core i9 collection is but to be published as smartly.

So on Intel’s aspect, sitting on the head of the circle of relatives is their resolution to AMD’s 16-core/32-thread Threadripper CPU: the eye-watering Core i9-7980XE — and I say eye-watering now not as it boasts an unbelievable 18 cores and 36 threads, however as a result of it’s going to set you again $2000.

The worth may well be excessive even for the flagship style, however Intel can be liberating 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14 and 16-core fashions, in what appears to be an outright attack on AMD. The Zen structure has obviously lit a fireplace underneath Intel and all this festival is excellent news for us, the shopper.

Intel can be liberating 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14 and 16-core style, in what appears to be an outright attack on AMD

The Core X collection comprises each the Skylake-X structure in addition to the Kaby Lake-X structure. All CPUs that experience a core rely of 6-18 cores are in line with Skylake-X, leaving simply the quad-cores to make use of Kaby Lake-X.

AMD has already fired photographs with their 4-core, 6-core and 8-core fashions and we predict 10, 12, 14 and 16-core variations quickly. Not in need of to easily fit AMD’s core rely Intel has long gone one step additional with the Core i9-7980XE through hitting 18-cores. This is basically the Titan XP of the CPU global, so it’s now not in point of fact that related.

Anyway when you have cash to burn and the 18-core style is certainly value no matter top class it finally ends up being over Threadripper, what does all that mola land you? Well, Intel says the i9-7980XE is the primary ever teraflop desktop PC processor, so there’s that.

You additionally get a CPU with a really large 18MB L2 cache. That is 1MB in step with core after which there’s a shared 24.75MB L3 cache. The working frequency is but to be published (base frequency) however the use of Turbo Boost Max a core or two will have to have the ability to hit 4.5GHz. For the sort of monstrous processor you may well be anticipating a thermal design energy score in far more than 200 watts. But the excellent news is the TDP score has been set at simply 165 watts.

That will have to make thermals rather manageable, however Intel could also be promoting its personal liquid cooler designed for the 165W TDP and 140W TDP chips. It’s estimated retail worth is between $80 and $100, and can paintings with some earlier era CPU fashions as smartly.

For the ones that may’t drop $2K on a CPU there’s the Core i9-7960X for a a lot more pockets pleasant $1700 — after all! What’s attention-grabbing right here is this style boasts the similar core rely as AMD’s upcoming flagship Threadripper CPU, rumored to be known as Ryzen 9 1998X.

All AMD Ryzen Threadripper CPUs can have quad channel DDR4 fortify in addition to the total 64 PCIe Gen3 lanes. That is 20 more lanes than Intel’s perfect finish Skylake-X Core i9 processors and extremely 40 more lanes than its 8-core and 6 core Core i7 fashions. So AMD has Intel in opposition to the ropes in relation to PCI Express lanes, the ones X399 motherboards are going to be rather fantastic.

Intel says the i9-7980XE is the primary ever teraflop desktop PC processor, so there’s that.

So with the 8-core Ryzen 7 1800X at $500 and the 1700 style which is basically the similar factor that’s recently promoting for as low as $310, how a lot can a 16-core Ryzen CPU in point of fact price? It would need to be smartly over double the cost of the most costly 8-core style to come back even with regards to the i9-7960X, in order that’s one thing to contemplate.

Anyway, the Core i9-7960X will characteristic a 16 MB L2 cache, once more 1MB in step with core, in addition to 22MB’s of L3. Memory fortify is identical for all Skylake-X processors and stays at Quad Channel DDR4-2666. The TDP could also be locked at 165 watt and once more for now, the bottom clock of this style is but to be introduced.

Intel says that in comparison to Broadwell-E chips such because the $1700 10-core i7-6950X, the brand new 10-core style gives 15 % quicker unmarried thread efficiency and is 10 % quicker on multi-threaded duties. So naturally for multi-threaded workloads the 7960X goes to overwhelm the 6950X albeit for a similar ludicrous worth.

Dropping all the way down to the low, low worth of $1400 we discover the Core i9-7940X, a 14-core style with a 14MB L2 cache and a 19.25MB L3 cache. Again you get quad-channel DDR4 and the similar 165 watt TDP.

The 12-core Core i9-7920X is available in at $1200 and now we’re beginning to nudge in opposition to that unique excessive worth of $1000. With this one you get 12 MB of L2 cache with a 16.5 MB of L3 cache. The TDP has been reduced to 140 watts however you continue to get quad-channel DDR4-2666 reminiscence fortify and all 44 PCI Express lanes enabled.

Stepping in for my 6950X is the Core-i9 7900X, the brand new 10-core/20-thread style. This style is available in on the similar worth as the sooner Extreme Edition fashions such because the Core i7-965 Extreme Edition, so $1000.

We know that this style will function all cores at a base frequency of 3.3 GHz and that’s a pleasing little 10% spice up over the 6950X. That stated the brand new 7900X does most effective recreation a 13.75MB L3 cache and that’s nearly part that of the 6950X. However while the 6950X most effective has a 2.5MB L2 cache the 7900X has an enormous 10MB L2 cache through comparability. L2 is significantly quicker so having more will have to lend a hand spice up efficiency considerably. Finally the 10-core style has been given the similar 140 watt TDP score because the 12-core style, quad-channel reminiscence and 44 PCIe lanes.

Okay, so that is the place it will get in point of fact attention-grabbing, the 8-core/16-thread Core i7-7820X that includes an MSRP of $600. That way we’re seeing a notable 40% relief in worth when in comparison to the 10-core style and only a 20% relief in core property.

This additionally implies that the 7820X will are available 20% dearer than AMD’s Ryzen 7 1800X and awkwardly nearly two times the cost of the 1700 style, so it generally is a excellent deal subsequent to the 1800X, however not likely to be with the life of the 1700. It comes clocked at 3.6 GHz for all cores however can spice up as top as 4.5 GHz. So that may be a greater clock velocity than what Ryzen can recently reach.

This is every other 140 watt phase however PCIe lanes had been lowered to 28, although that is nonetheless lots for many energy customers. Still as famous previous it is a large 56% relief in lanes when in comparison to even the bottom Ryzen Threadripper CPU.

Now for the 6-core/12-thread style and Intel has so much using right here. As you most likely know the Ryzen 5 1600 is thought of as to be the golden chip of all of the Ryzen lineup and at simply $220 it’s laborious to overcome. It turns out like Intel’s now not even going to check out as their 6-core Core i7-7800X is ready to come back in at $390. That’s now not an important saving over the present 6-core Broadwell-E chip, about 10% inexpensive when in comparison to the 6800Okay. This style can spice up as top as 4GHz out of the field with a base clock frequency of 3.5GHz. It additionally packs 6MB of L2 cache and 8.25 MB of L3 cache. Again it is a 140 watt style with 28 PCIe lanes.

With the 6-core style nonetheless coming in at nearly $400 that also leaves some room for some decrease tier fashions. Intel is providing quad-cores at the X299 platform, the quickest of which would be the Core i7-7740X. Priced at $340 it is available in on the similar worth because the Core i7-7700Okay and this style is in line with the brand new Kaby Lake-X structure.

I believe maximum will accept as true with me although once I say, I don’t in point of fact get this style. It’s now not an ideal deal inexpensive than the 6-core style and but it most effective gives twin channel reminiscence fortify and a trifling 16 PCIe lanes. Why be offering the sort of measly CPU on a flagship platform that may without a doubt be ruled through top class and costly motherboards? It’s nearly a comic story that the access degree Threadripper CPU will fortify 3 times as many PCI Express lanes.

As you most likely know the Ryzen 5 1600 is thought of as to be the golden chip of all of the Ryzen lineup and at simply $220 it’s laborious to overcome.

Perhaps much more puzzling is the $240 Core i5-7640X which is every other quad-core phase, although it lacks Hyper Threading fortify so simply 4-threads are on be offering right here. So for $20 greater than the Ryzen 5 1600, Intel is giving us a conventional Core i5. I gained’t hassle studying out the specifications, I’m beautiful positive that is going to be every other Core i3-7350Okay state of affairs the place I’m going to merely let you know guys, do not purchase it.

Before wrapping issues up I looked at two X399 motherboards over within the Asrock sales space. The first is the X399 Taichi and this board does a beautiful excellent process of looking to take on all the ones PCIe lanes with 4 PCIe x16 slots and 3 M.2 slots. As you’ll see that huge TR4 socket occupies an enormous quantity of house at the board, as do the 8 DIMM slots.

Asrock additionally had their X399 Professional Gaming on show and the core specs have been very an identical although this board does select up a Creative audio resolution and 10 gigabit Ethernet which may be very cool.

I additionally noticed this Mini-ITX X299 motherboard. Looks like you are able to make an 18-core Core i9 rig in a shoebox measurement PC if you wish to have. This tiny board wasn’t mild on options both providing six SATA ports, 3 M.2 ports — I do know, 3 on a Mini-ITX board. There’s additionally a number of USB ports, a large number of networking choices and fortify for quad-channel reminiscence by the use of 4 pc taste DIMM slots. Impressive stuff and I will’t wait to test those new forums out when time comes.

In a nutshell, Intel’s new Core X collection no doubt appears very attention-grabbing and somewhat complicated on the similar time. They are obviously feeling the Ryzen warmth and going with an all-out attack. The liberate date for the primary wave of chips is June 19 and I will have to have available for trying out the 10-core Core i9-7900X and 4-core Core i7-7740X.